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Filling holes - Cautious

Hi Bernd and Lynda, As I anticipated, being finished with school has taken from me one of the coping mechanisms that allowed me to survive this experience of divorce. The other mechanism is the relationship that I am now in. School had seen its time and I was ready to be done. The relationship is just beginning to blossom into something really beautiful but I am realizing that a part of my inner child has been allowing unhealthy speed due to a fear of abandonment and a desire for a dream fulfilled of "happily ever after". This relationship has all of the makings of a healthy, functional lifetime experience. We both however have issues of self doubt that at times cause us to become clinging and fearful which causes sideways, childlike behavior. We have begun counselling and I am encouraged that we are both willing to search and grow individually and together. The problem, if it is one is that my SO hears me saying that the relationship is headed for an ending when I am actually saying that I don't want to rush what we have been gifted with and lose the beauty of discovery through the journey. Do you have any insights or thoughts that would help us slow down yet stay connected to ourselves and hopefully to each other?

From: Bernd

The Day at a Time approach is the only thing I know of that really helps me calm down my fears about the future. Other than giving your SO your example, and listening to his fears without trying to fix them for him, I don't know of much else you can do. He has to find his own resolution, or stay in pain. Allowing him to struggle, accepting his fears as ok, and resolving your own the best you can, is the type of "formula" I try to use with Lynda. It works better than anything else I've ever tried.:) Hugs.

From: Susan

I think you just might be over intellectualizing a little. You say both of you are going to couples therapy. HOW WONDERFUL - to start at the beginning instead of the end, that place where so much damage and bitterness gathers. I think you are doing wonderfully, stick with it !!! Since you CAN talk and share your feelings with him - share this one too. Let him read our posts if it will help.

Looks like to me you are finally taking "the high road" !!! AND YOU DESERVE IT, TOO !! Love and prayers to you both.

From: Bernd

Susan, Thanks for reminding me of what I do often too. I guess Cautious and I have a similar struggle at times, re: the intellectualizing thing. It's a defence thing. People think that being "smart" is an advantage, and unfortunately there's plenty of reinforcement (money, power, etc.) for all of us to focus on "headwork" in just about everything. I had an advantage all thru life that I was able to pick up and understand some things easier than other people, but it's my head I've had one of the toughest struggles with in my recovery. I keep reverting back to trying to explain things to the teeniest detail, and figuring out stuff, to protect myself. I really envy at times how easily Lynda can get right to the heart of something in a few words, while I'm spitting out a novella trying to get to the same place.

The intellectualizing struggle reminds me of a person who finds that one leg is stronger than the other, and learns how to walk on that leg most of the time, while the other one gets weaker. One day they have a wakeup call, and discover they've been walking with a limp all their life. It's scary as hell to trust our "weak" leg. I've stumbled a lot when I tried to use it in the past. That's why I find it so hard to stop using my strong one. That's why I find it so hard to let go of the long, intellectual explanations, etc., and just say it like it feels, simply.

It's ironic. Before recovery, we see our strengths as blessings, and our imperfections as curses. After recovery, we discover we were only half right - that we were only seeing one side of the coin. One day, I'll be able to say what I just said above in a few sentences. Hooray! I love your postings Susan.

From: Cautious

Susan, Thanks for responding. I may need to fill in a bit of information for you to understand why I feel as I do about the speed issue in my relationship at this time. I spoke of school helping me "survive" through the issue of divorce. I have not as yet received a legal divorce. At this time we are between lawyers. My ex has severe depression and denial problems and at this point is becoming very non functional in the real world. He is not crazy in medical terms but his behavior is becoming more bizarre as time passes. He has not worked for 6 months and claims that he is unable to find employment due to a bad driving record. (He is a professional driver). The problem is that he refuses to look for employment in any other area. He is probably correct in being unemployable as a driver since he has had several accidents and tickets in the past 16 months. He has stopped paying support to the children as of 15 weeks ago. I have not pressed this issue in court because if I take him back there for satisfaction of his obligation he will probably be able to get the amount reduced. He has stated that he has the option of having it reduced but has done nothing because he doesn't want to pay money to file for reduction. To take him myself would allow him to request to pay less. My lawyer and I are keeping track of arrears and hope to have the amount deducted from the value of the equity in our house when the time comes.

Anyway, as I said, the divorce is not yet legal. My concern in moving too fast is not so much that I do not believe in the relationship that Tom and I have been given but we have made some choices that put the cart before the horse so to speak. About a month ago I accepted a ring. The truth is, I probably was the main catalyst for the purchase, even though Tom wanted to become "engaged" also. I am beginning to feel as though the decision was an attempt to avoid the issue of feelings of abandonment and disappointment and possibly to validate my worth and desire in the eyes of Tom and the world. We have begun to discuss this issue at counselling but as I stated in my first posting, Tom became triggered from past relationship experiences and heard me saying that I felt as though I was making a mistake being with him. This couldn't be further from the truth and we have talked about the reality of our commitment to one another. I was married for 17 years. The emotional impact of realizing that the "dreams" of that relationship are truly unattainable is in a way like experiencing a death. There are two children that I have as a gift of being with Ed, a 17 year old son and 14 year old daughter. Both children love Tom but I am sure it is difficult for them to accept an engagement when there has been no official closure. We have discussed it a bit but at 17 and 14 they are experiencing their own life stuff without the pain and confusion involved in being part of a divorce.

What you speak of as intellectualizing may be just that. I think however that I am being mature and responsible as I question my motives and actions. I have no question to my relationship with Tom as far as being the right path to pursue, only the speed with which we go forward. Human fear and insecurity is not a place for decision making I know. Thanks for any more input, the more I share my thoughts, the clearer I see and the healthier choices I receive.

From: Susan

Well, yes, that makes it a little clearer. I agree that examining your motives and actions are a priority, especially with the kids in the picture. Still, I think the fact that you are able to share these feelings AND discuss them with Tom is a key issue. Don't we all sometimes do what we NEED to do - to make ourselves feel better ?? That you CAN feel this ways shows that you are much farther ahead in your healing process than even you (possibly) realize !!!!

Probably, my first response was based in my "kick in the pants" mentality (see DEAR Bernd & Lynda post !! :-) . I was afraid for you - that you would get "bogged" down in this issue and not see the wonderful gift of your relationship. (Hey, I go to S-Anon - caretaking is my life (ha, ha - little joke from a serious co-dependent !!) As for the rest of my original post - I stand behind it 100% ... I think you are doing great and YOU STILL DESERVE IT. :-) Lots of hugs for you.

From: Kim

Bernd--Oh please don't stop intellectualizing too often. I get alot of "meat" from what you say. I was raised by a father whose favourite response to anything I did was "think, use your head". Now, in most every part of my life, I think things through so I'll have made the "correct" decision. That's a good trait sometimes, it's just in relationships it sometimes bogs us down. I think that all three times I've chosen a "partner" who is full of energy and emotion. They were attracted to my caring and thoughtfulness, but eventually got tired of my being quite so "deep". Well, deep can be interpreted as intellectual, but in my case sometimes it was just trying to cover all of my bases so that I wouldn't get hurt. Really worked, didn't it!?!

Anyway, I think and process very similarly to you and find your words of advice (all of them) great food for thought. Please feel free to go on and on and on and on.......God knows I do!

From: Cautious

Hi again. A little more background that will be useful in understanding what "we" are dealing with. I am a recovering alcoholic. I have been in recovery for 8 1/2 years and am a different person than I was before the 12 steps became part of my reality. I still belong to the progress not perfection club so I continue to attend meetings and share. I also go to Al Anon and ACOA. Although to the best of my knowledge there was no active alcoholism in my growing up experience there was an awful lot of dysfunctional behavior!!!!! I have just completed my education and my dream is to work with developmentally disabled seniors. I am now employed and love my job but the current position doesn't require a degree hence the pay is not what I will need in the long term, especially when the loans start coming due. I am gaining needed experience and I am blessed to have insurance coverage for myself and the children. God has been very faithful and my gratitude list is lengthy. Perspective is usually pretty balanced but at times, especially when hormones are high, I lose sight...

I appreciate your willingness to share your insights. The discovery of this website is another gift from my Higher Power for sure!!! I will be writing more to you later. There is much that I would like to share and ponder.

From: Tom

For what is love if not an expression of truthful fears? Growing to rely upon a love's continued appreciation of my presence even when my self condemnation is at a peak is a dream that is being fulfilled today. I love your ability to respond to my self condemnation with not enabling kindness but truthful resolve. The spirit of genuine sincerity is felt. It cannot be intellectualized. Yet it can be displayed through consistent seeking of conscious contact with God that translates to a will for relationship that leads to beautiful behaviors. The deep philosophical and experiential truths that the 12 steps of alcoholics anonymous reveal to a couple that seek healing and love not only for the self but for the other is a miracle that I pray all mankind experience.


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