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Trust, Fights, and the Quiet Game - Joe

My girlfriend and I have been together for nearly 3 years now, but we are still having a trust problem. Both of us have done some things to lose the trust of the other...but I'm the one in the hot seat because I lied to her. She is in a constant state of half mad so lately, her fuse has been very short. This in turn makes me upset as well and we've been fighting lots because of it. I don't expect her to act like everything is o.k...but the arguing is getting out of hand. Just last night we had a huge fight outside her house about nothing. Soon, it turned into a bring-up-any-issue-you-can-think-of argument. This lead to worse things ultimately leading to me speeding off in my car. As you might expect, she isn't really speaking to me today. She told me she has things to resolve or figure out.

All I can think is that she wants to break up (we've been on the brink). Of course, that's the last thing I want, but I'm afraid that because I've lied and because things aren't great right now, that she doesn't think they can improve. What can I do in the mean time (I'm quite impatient)? And what if she recommends a break up? And what can I do to make sure this doesn't happen? And if she wants to separate, how do I make her reconsider? In a desperate attempt to do something about the trust problem, I have agreed to make a list of 100 reasons why she should trust me. That seemed reasonable at the time, but after 60 or so, my reasons are running thin. Anyone out there want to add to the list?Can any person in this whole world really think of 100 reasons why anyone should trust them?

From: Claudia

One can be trusted when they slow down long enough to be honest to themselves. There is nothing you can do Joe to make anything happen in all of this except examine your own attitudes, beliefs and motives and discover exactly where Joe is. You do not have to do that alone. Welcome to a world of loving honesty that opens the door to wholeness if you allow it in.

From: Bernd

Joe, I have NO reasons why Lynda should trust me. Whatever level of trust she feels is best for her, is okay with me. As a human being, she has the ability to make her own judgments about how trustworthy anyone is, including me. If I try to persuade her to see things my way, I’m not placing a lot of value on her own abilities. If you really want to get a more accurate picture of what she finds difficult in her relationship with you. my suggestion would be to begin practicing how to listen. Ask her if she’s willing to tell you everything that bothers her in her relationship with you. Before beginning, ask her if you can repeat back what you’ve heard her say at regular intervals, to make sure you’ve really heard her and understand her. Other than that, during such a listening session, listen only - don’t try to defend yourself, or respond with anger, or tell her she’s wrong or mistaken. Listen only. You can’t find any real solutions, until you know what the real problems are.

Arguing has a way of jumping us from issue to issue, like watching 5 minutes of a movie before you pop the next one in the VCR. If you have a good listening session, hug her and thank her after for sharing, and ask her if she’d feel comfortable listening to you for 5 or 10 minutes, and just listening. If she is comfortable, talk about YOU, your feelings, your fears, your beliefs. Give her a chance to understand YOU better. My guess is you both confuse the heck out of each other, because each of you is so busy trying to be heard, that you never really hear each other. My guess is that you both WANT to know each other better than you do. Some caring, kind listening can make a huge first step in giving both of you more of that. Those are my guesses. Hope something here helps.

Quick question: can you tell me how old you are and she is?

From: Joe

I'm 20 & she's 19. Great advice about the listening practices, I really do appreciate it. However, I fear the time has come where we don't have time to practice and I'm immediately thrown into the raging fire. She wont let us talk 'til she's ready & I'm so scared that when that time comes, I won't have my chance. There won't be a chance to discuss together, but merely she says her thing, & nothing I can say will matter. Deep down I don't know what to expect from her when we talk, but my imagination is tearing me apart. I'm dying here. Is there anything I can do?

From: Bernd

Yes, do what you have the power to do. You have the power to listen to her. You don't have the power to force her to listen, and if you try to get her to do something before she's willing, it will backfire. If she isn't willing to listen to you, you can substitute me and others here as a temporary replacement. You can bare your heart and feelings to us safely. And if you ask me to listen, I won't give advice, or suggestions. I'll try to simply repeat what I think I heard you say, so that you can tell me if I understood you.

Sometimes we can't see what's over the next small hill until we get past the first one. All the guessing in the world doesn't help. Do what you can, and give YOURSELF the trust that you're asking her to give you. Trust that, if you take things one step at a time and one day at a time, you'll make it to a better place that's waiting for you. Those are my guesses Joe. I know from my own experience that doing something in a different way is very scary. I hope you get some support and encouragement from others too.

From: Tom

Feelings can really be hard to experience. I sense fear Joe. Do you fear loss of the relationship or do you fear examination of why you are trustworthy. If I feel trustworthy I have no reason to convince anyone. My faith in my own honesty need not be explained. I am responsible for my lack of honesty and then I must go to God and seek the courage to stand truer next time. After repeated experience with life in this way I have found that my honesty is not in question by myself anymore. If another questions me I need to examine and if need to admit my wrong doing. I am not perfect and if my partner needs perfection than we will not remain partners. Praise for a partner who is willing to self examine and knows how hard living in complete honesty is. She doesn't ask me for reasons why I am trustworthy, she continues to self examine so that she believes in her own trustworthiness. Great to hear from you and good luck in finding what is best for Joe in this life.

From: Joe

Last night she called me not to talk about the big stuff, but to express her disapproval of the way I acted the other day. I agreed it was inappropriate & I found myself thinking why I acted so disrespectful towards her. I never dreamed I would lose my head the way I did-at least never in front of anyone. Anyway, she told me she still had things to work out so she said she would call me at another time when she knew exactly what to say. I did however pick up on some hints that suggested that she wants this all to end(though there is high probability I'm wrong). I keep thinking she just wants to find the proper words to trash me. I went to bed crying and picked up where I left off this morning. The thought of us breaking up eats me up. I already can't deal, and there isn't even an official word. I keep telling myself to believe in us, but the signs point in another direction.

I believe she and I are meant to be, she's even admitted it before...I guess that's why I'm having such a hard time sitting on a verdict. I'm so scared that I have driven us to the edge and unintentionally called upon gale force winds. I'm also worried that we aren't gonna be able to talk this out. As if finding the source of our problems and discussing them together is passed. I'm praying that there will at least be a chance that we can find this time, but what if it never comes. Am I just suppose to stand here in front of the firing squad without trying to do something about it? I love her so much. I just want to help fix things. I have a very hard time handling things out of my control. In a way I can control the situation by trying to do something(call, write, etc)...but I'm not sure what will come as a result. As if this wasn't getting complicated enough, I found out her parents saw our fight & she's leaving for school again (70miles) in 2 short weeks. Someone shoot me.


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