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Recovering - Hern

For the first time, we (my wife and I) had a talk about the feelings of the affair. A talk that did not lead to a heated discussion. Before she was very protective or afraid to talk. Yesterday, I started by asking about little things that she did as a child and progressed to our marriage. I asked he "How much love does her watering pot has?" Initially, she did not understand the question, but later explaining a little of the action of a watering pot does to a little plant that needs the water, she answered that the pot is full.

What I am trying now, thanks to the various readings that I have done here is to understand the needs she has and that I was not able to provide so that I can be aware of them. I noticed that she does not want to open up totally yet, and I understand her better. She, as I am going through, must be dealing with her feelings. Not only being pregnant, but also with the guilt of damaging our relationship. I think that it is in this area that I need to be more patient. I am the type that I need an answer that is immediate. I just feel that I can not wait. Interesting, our relationship is turning into something that I did not expect so soon. She started to talk to me of every detail of her day. But I have to be careful, not to push too hard on knowing what she has done. She mentioned that she feels that she has too much pressure and I do not understand why.

Now, the part that I do not know what to do is in our intimate relation. She never initiated sex. She feels that it is sinful. Sometimes she expressed that she does not need it and that it is dirty. Since we are going to the marriage counselor, we had made the commitment that at least we do it twice a week. So far we had kept it but I see her sometimes that she feels remorse. How can I help her and myself in that? Am I expecting too much? Thanks for your friendship and thoughts.

From: Bernd

Alarms bells clanged loudly in me when I read about the mutual commitment to have sex twice a week. I don't know exactly what led up to that agreement, but something here doesn't feel comfortable at all, at all. (Just a note of caution: these are only MY best guesses, and I may be far out in left field).

What strikes me is that your wife has some deep, instilled beliefs and struggles over sex. I'd suspect that trying to keep such a commitment sets her up inside for almost certain failure, which is going to significantly reinforce her sense of low self-worth. I also suspect she might even reach the point where the thought of sex makes her feel nauseous; she may be able to suppress and mask that struggle for a while, but not forever. To have sex, she has to split off a part of herself that keeps telling her "she's a bad, sinful girl". This to me, is dangerous for both of you.

I would STRONGLY suggest you get a second opinion on how to handle this part of your relationship from an experienced sex therapist. He/she may confirm that the path you're taking is a good one (in which case you can throw away this email). I suspect, however, that what he/she MAY advise is working on building a much higher level of non-sexual safety and intimacy between you, with a slow gradual healing of sexual millstones that your wife (and likely you as well) have been carrying for so many years. Instead of a revolution, an evolution. One where your wife and you are able to take each sexual belief you have, hold it up to the light, and see which parts of those beliefs are harming you, and which are enhancing you. Internal struggle and turmoil mix with sex like oil mixes with water.

One last note: as much as you want the pain of what's happened to go away, and your relationship to get back on track, one of the things necessary in a solid, loving relationship is patience. The recovery process will help you learn that, but it usually does so by reminding you with pain and confusion when you aren't being patient. It took Lynda and I close to five years. Let it happen at the pace it needs to in your relationship, not at the pace you want. My guess is this is the surest road. You are off to a very encouraging start. That is VERY nice to see.:)

From: wolfie

Bernd - I AGREE COMPLETELY!! I had HUGE warning bells when I heard of this agreement to have sex twice a week. My first thought was change therapists - because this is not going to help either one of you. Your wife needs to feel safe to just be herself in order for her real healing to just Start.

From: mzet

You are definitively expecting too much too soon. Don't even think about sex right now!!!!! I have not had any sex in eight months with my wife since we blew up over the affair, and she never had any kind of bad feelings about sex to start with. If you don't build intimacy slowly and solidly, with 100% of her free willing support, you will continue to have problems. Sex is, in my opinion, the icing on the cake. You gotta make a cake first!!!

I know, one is so used to having sex all the time and one gets soooo horny, but believe, you can control it. And besides, it takes a huge unnecessary weight off the relationship, particularly for her. I can't believe that any therapist would recommend prescribe sex twice per week if one of the parties does not feel comfortable with it.

Be very very careful. Building the relationship up is more important than sex. Be patient. This whole process takes a looooong time. The best way to help her is to give her space. Explore non-sexual ways of being intimate with her. And be very gently and willing to step back and away if she feels the least uncomfortable. Take care. Be patient. :)

From: Whitey

I can very much identify with your spouse. Be patient. Hope. Trust has been broken and that is not rebuilt in one day. Betrayal, resentment, and anger can be happening. Like both of you, my spouse and I are going through similar things. We are going through a marriage counselor. We are going through recovery programs, etc.,

I almost all the time, will not initiate sex. I am not very good at expressing emotions - verbally or physically. Then of course topped with the alcoholic recovery icing and what the disease has done to my life and ours, I withdraw more inwards for fear of feeling betrayed and lied to again. Promises have been made and broken. Dare I trust again only to be faced with yet failure and disappointment in life? No one wants disappointments in life. There is no worse feeling than being an innocent recipient as a result of someone else's actions - you have hurt her, she needs time to heal.

Perhaps for her, as it is for me, she wants to feel the pain, the anger, the resentment, the sorrow of what has happened. Sex just for the sake of sex or just because your counselor suggested 'twice a week' is not like an aspirin fix for a headache. Sex for some us goes deeper than just the need, there must also be intimacy, one that she may not be feeling right now. Intimacy's solid foundation is to feel close to your partner, and breaking trust which harbors other ill feelings is an essential part of the intimacy which has just been destroyed. It needs to be repaired and rebuilt. My prayers are with you both.


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