Re: Verbal Abuse Advise ----- From: kim (wolfie) - Date: 07 Nov 1997
First of all Lost Love,
You are in the majority of most of the people on the planet. However, I disagree with all of you. There are also many people who think as I do. That we are NOT NOT NOT separate from God but we are ONE ONE ONE with God - CO-CREATORS!!!!! In regards to all of your examples, YES, I feel that all of them DID create those experiences on some level. Each soul has its own agenda and it isn't up to us to try to figure out their agenda - but yes - they chose it!!!!
First of all, death is not death as how you perceive it to be. We go on to another plane - life does not end - ever! Second of all, I would agree that the major decisions for these choices (a violent death) are probably made before birth. However, once you agree to mind your own business first and foremost is that you need to understand that no decision made yesterday can override a decision made today. Jesus planned the manner of his passing as an example. Even so, at the last minute, he still had the choice whether to go thru with it. It is not just what you ask for with your words, but also what you ask for with your life that comes to you as experiences.
I will quote to you what my friend Brad wrote on the subject. He says it much better than I ever could.
"I am like Jesus who expresses the Christ awareness, in the only way that I can be, in thought.
The link between personal man and spiritutal principle is meaning. It is what ties together thought as it manifests from abstract law outward to physical experience.
Like Jesus, I see outward circumstances not as the validation of my life, but as the reflection of my inner life, expressing thru mind action.
I believe as Jesus does that ALL of life is meaningful, each situation, everyidle dream. I no longer ignore God by believing in luck, coincidence, or random chance.
I have stopped seeking excuses to condemn myself, but instead I seek to take those aspects of myself that are out of harmony, and reintegrate them in my total self.
I do this thru love and unconditional affirmation of my life, as I experience it within, as well as thru my relationships with others.
I understand that I manipulate meaning thru symbolism, and that my firm foundation is in understanding universal or spiritual law. It is thru this I declare my responsibility for my total Mind, and my willingness to grow thru expressing greater wisdom and truth.
I know as Jesus does that faith is nothing more nor less than the firm understanding of spiritual cause and effect, and that this causation both supports and etermines physical causation and outward reality.
It is in seeking the spiritual cause of each outward expression that I turn my attention to that WITHIN myself that is the source of the expression. I worship God thru my willingness to express our understanding as my own.
Jesus is willing to take universal principle and express it as a personal relationship. I also understand that to share this awareness with all the aspects of my being, both inner and outer, requires me to include the quality of personality in it.
I am willing to give up seeking the approval of people (who represent the outer consciousness) for the awareness of God, who is the inner consciousness.
I am willing to fast from rationalizing and intellectualizing, in order to lay ahold of the law, and claim my relationship with the total self.
I have given up the need to have spiritual truth proven to me. My existence and my ability to learn is proof to me of God's love for me. I will not reject that love and birthright by seeking to give my authority or power to choose to another........."
Lost Love, I believe we are One with God - co-creators and we are here strictly to experience. There is no "good" or "bad" - there just IS. God doesn't judge - we do that to ourselves. I believe in a God of LOVE - I believe Love is all there is - and all else is but an illusion we have created so we could re-experience love. We have created the illusion of separation so we could return and remember our truth of Oneness - for the experience. What I believe comes from an intuitive Knowing and from my experiences. I can give you examples and examples of what I have co-created and why. New Thought was introduced to me many years ago - I was guided there - and my whole way of thinking started to change - and to be honest with you, my life changed. (for the better) It works when I work it!!!!! When I read "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch in 1995, his book was everything I believed in packaged nicely! I would recommend that book to anyone!
In closing, I will quote to you what Brad (Brad has a Unity - New Thought Web Page) wrote to someone else: "From my investigations and experiences, I believe that every thing that occurs in your consciousness (not just in your physical life) does so because of a concsious desire or fear. I include the unconscious as part of the conscious. You may not be completely aware of what you are asking for, or you may ask for one thing but need another experience as a steppingstone to the experience that you ahve asked for.
People who reject this point of view generally are worried about where to place the blame. "Whose fault is it that this man was born blind?"
God does not find fault. God does NOT punish. God doesn't get even.
And if you want to spend your time figuring out whose fault things are, you are doing it on your own time.
You choose circumstances to have the chance to grow in awareness.
YOu send out a call for a new challenge, and cooperating souls come rushing to you, or you to them, to have the experience. How you deal with that experience is up to you.
Some of you find this very hard to take. It is usually in trying to choose for another person, to judge whether life has been fair to them. Jesus says "Look at the world as if God's perfect justice prevailed. Look at the world as if spiriutal law was always in operation with no exceptions. Then you will be able to be aware of everything without judgement or condemnation."
It takes practice. It can be difficult to do in the face of personal tragedy.
But it is even more difficult not to do it!!!!"
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Lost Love, I will not bother people here anymore. My convictions run deep - based on my life's experiences, and my deep and abiding intuitive knowingness. I don't expect you to change the way you feel - most people feel that way - that is where the planet is at. No big deal.
I will leave with one of my most favorite quotes: as you believe and think, SO IT IS!
I won't bug people here anymore. Goodbye.
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