Re: A Message to all.... ----- From: Bugga - Date: 18 Dec 1997

PD, thanks for sharing this one.

David, I am also seeing other ways of looking at this. This story may be true, but not accurate in my opinion.

See, the moth never looked up at the kind man and ask for help to begin with. Looking at this story and comparing it to other things in life that have more similarity makes sense to me. But when humans are having troubles, we sometimes ask for help from others. I don't think it cripples us in any way to ask for help when we feel we need it. I see where OFFERING help, in some cases, can have a crippling effect. I would rather have help to fall back on than be helped along my way anyhow. Growth to me doesn't mean I have to suffer unnecessarily. I grew from a painful depression also. When I was depressed at seventeen I didn't know help existed. I didn't know what was wrong. And I don't see how the experience at seventeen helped me in any way. That was when I attempted suicide. I have never again felt the way I did that day nor do I ever want to.

If a woman is giving birth and the doctor sees she is in danger of losing her life, or perhaps the baby is in danger, she may use forceps or perform a Caesarean Section to get the baby out. Do we rely on faith and prayer or do we use the tools God gave us, our brain, to name one tool, to improve our lives? The baby certainly didn't ask the doctor for help, but the woman did just by being under a doctor's care to begin with.

If a lion born crippled or becomes injured cannot keep up with her pride, what happens? She is left behind. If a human sees the crippled animal, they may take it upon themselves to intervene out of compassion. That's as far as I'll take that one because this could lead to a CRIPPLING debate!!

So, you are not alone in seeing other ways to look at this. Moreover, I'm glad I was not alone in seeing it as ambiguous in nature. I heard it when I was a kid, or one similar to it I should say, but don't remember understanding it.

BTW, I hope your depression is under control. And speaking of which, I am trying very hard to get in touch with my spiritual side. I am realizing my brain is NOT the boss, my Higher Power is. The brain is only a tool to use, not take over and be equal to my Higher Power. In the meantime, the brain is having its way but I'll try every day to allow The Spirit to guide me.

Love & Huggs Bugga

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